I know a Punjabi guy who is like short, and black looking with a flat nose and really thick hair and has like aboriginal looks. He claimed to be Punjabi like he was bragging about it, I wanted to say something to put him in place like, "you ain't no Punjabi". And I get annoyed by Indians (fresh arrivals) asking me whether I'm south Indian or north indian (I'm born in USA) --Naveen
-------Well, there are a lot of darkish snub nosed punjabis.
About american born and indian born...... Imagine a melting pot bubbling for eight thousand years. Thats India. So if you're from India, youre a survivor, you got all this baggage whether you like it or not. The cultural baggage you can pick and choose, but genes? You're stuck with them. Something to be thankful for, actually. Think about it. Your genes have tried and tested programs to successfully tackle almost anything. Otherwise we'd have croaked long ago ;-)
If Indians ask you what you are tell them you are a tribal rajah. That'll zap them. Tribals generally pack a very sharp dagger and know how to use it. What tribe? Maybe Aravalli Bhil.
The Origin of Peruru Dravidas is from a place called Velangaimanu in Kumbakonam Dist Tamilnadu. They moved from there some 400 years back and it is believed that the village of Peruru (Near Amalapuram, East Godavari District, Andhra Pradesh) was designed and built by them. From A civil engg point of view, it was a well designed and Built village. Infact the name Peruru comes from Peria--oor (Big Village) in Tamil. We have a hand written note in this connection by late Sri Maruvada Sambhanna Sastry of Buchemma Agraharam, Amalapuram (Which is around 3 KM from Peruru)
----Thanks for the info. I think there is a great deal of accurate information available only it is not easily accessible/ published. Actually Draavids have fairly recently migrated to Godavari from Tamilnadu---but they went to tamil nadu from other places only just a little before that. I am trying to find out where they were BEFORE they went to Tamil nadu. One possible lead is they went FROM godavari to tanjavur area earlier, during Kulotthunga chalukya-chola's time. Then according to some people they are partly marathi-deccani or west UP-punjab people who went to tamilnadu owing to social disturbances in the area. But so far I have not got specific and accurate details of any such migrations.
All the same their physical features show immediately most of the the dravids are fairly recent immigrants to tamilnadu (as well as andhra.) Their 'house names' are also recent, it is interesting but does not lead anywhere. As soon as I get some more verified details I'll post on the site.
I just read your article on Rajus . It is very nice of you to put together such a great information on web. The topics about our history and culture always makes me nostalgic. I am always curious to know about the origins and how all these last names and gothra's evolved. Thanks for sharing your knowledge , please suggest me more links that relate to our Indian historical facts.
Kemal Cemal(email@example.com) :--
As far as I can see,You want me to write a book about the Huns. believe in me that I can reply to those questions one by one. but I have no enough time to make it. but I can give many book names written about the Huns.
I think you have not read the message carefully. I just told about the language of the Huns.. It has been nearly became definite that The language of the Huns was Turkic. for example,the modern Chinese historian Han Kangshin, who is the foremost expert on Huns in China, says the language of the Huns is Turkic .
---take your own time Mr Kemal and write more!
Sridhar Borra (sridharborra--hotmail)
I just came across your web site and its been very informative!!Thanks for all the effort.---Sridhar Reddy
Kemal Cemal(firstname.lastname@example.org ):--
(summarised long email)--The Huns are actually of Turkish descent. The language of the Huns was a ( ugrian ) turkic one. The turkish tribes lived in a vast area in East Asia. Their neighbours to the east were Mongols ( manchuria). The higher culture of the mongols was actually Turkish.
".... The term Mongol is wrongly used by many scholars to express all nations ,tribes and races originating in Central Asia .Many historians accept Huns Mongol. But they also say that Turks are mongol stock.These are pure nonsense."
"Mongols are a nation which has not the ability to establish the state . The empire of Mongol they established is based on Turkic elements rather than Mongol elements.. The form of the structure of the empire of mongol was based on Turkic state governing form. The official language of mongol empire was Uigrian,which is a Turkic language.....18 turkish tribes played an important role in founding Mongol Empire.. we can give many example showing the effects of Turkic elements on mongol empire.."
Further, Bulgars are descendants of Huns. Magyar ( hungarians) are also descendants of the Huns.
-----It seems you wish to highlight the importance of Turkish contribution to history which is not sufficiently highlighted by 'western' historians. By all means welcome. There is also an active pan-turkish movement... But Mongolian people may not agree with you? Pl. clarify further some questions I've sent. Thanks for the list of links, I'll post shortly on a separate links page.
I'm a mudiraj from Prakasham District of Andhra Pradesh. Our tradition is that our
ancestors were all kings...There are also people who had descended from ruling class like SALUVA dynasty.
ELUGU RAYUDU was the last ruler of SALUVA dynasty who ruled his kingdom making PODILI TOWN as his capital. The people having surname ELUGU are our blood relatives. My mother hailed from a small village known as ELUGU VARI PALEM near PODILI TOWN.
My mother used to tell us that KAMMA means COURIER. The Kammas were the people who used to work as couriers under various kings.
I have also seen a large number of people belonging to our community worshipping mother Goddess in the name of ANKAMMA like any other king worships mother Goddess with their own pet names. While worshipping mother Goddess ANKAMMA, we here some stories song by some narrators. In those stories, there is a reference to one KATAMA RAJU who perhaps belonged to CHOLA kings of Nellore.
There needs a lot more study to be made to understand more about different origins of different sections of people belonging to MUDIRAJ community. I appreciate your efforts to gather information about the people of MUDIRAJ community and appeal you to add more detailed information about these people who belong to the fighting / war race.---K Anka Rao.
-----The various ballads like katamraju katha, ankamma katha, may have some references to mudiraj connections. There are similar other historical ballads sung during Mudiraj community ceremonies like weddings. Can you post a translation? My friends said they heard cassettes of this, but the quality is poor. Dr. N. Sarma (retd Osmania Univ) has done a lot of work on these. I'll try to get some info.